Welcome to the board to you and the hubby. It's a shame you can't just walk away from these people isn't it? They don't realize that by coming after you it makes it so that you never, ever want to go back!
Anywho - glad to have you here!
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Hi Im new and want to thank you all
by montana96 inhi all on this thread.
i am very new here quite excited to finally make the move and register.
i have a very long story but i would like to leave that for another time perhaps.
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What if God was actually just an alien encounter in history?
by free2beme ini always liked star trek, kind of a sci-fi nut by nature.
anyway, an older episode involved leaving a gangster book on an evolving planet and then the people turned this into a way of life.
well it makes me wonder at times, what if our early cultures were once visited by an alien culture and instead of realizing this, they took their advance technology to be god?
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He is a smart guy who figured out how to get his trips paid for.
Well, that's certainly more than I've been able to accomplish. LOL - Sounds good to me. Sign me up, I'd love to travel the world on somedummy elses tab. I remember hearing of a borger out in the sales field telling a house-holder "We have a message for you from outer space" ROFL. The other borgers didn't like that, said it made them sound crazy (as if that's the only crazy thing witlesses have said). sweet tee
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What if God was actually just an alien encounter in history?
by free2beme ini always liked star trek, kind of a sci-fi nut by nature.
anyway, an older episode involved leaving a gangster book on an evolving planet and then the people turned this into a way of life.
well it makes me wonder at times, what if our early cultures were once visited by an alien culture and instead of realizing this, they took their advance technology to be god?
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This is a great topic!
Since joining this site and hearing some of the alternate views on religion/spirituality/occult etc. I personally have abandoned ALL religious beliefs, however, I still believe in God and in eternity (as in, this brief life is not there is). Religious beliefs are so confining. Looking back I feel more and more that the Bible was written by men, for men, to control men. It's just so contradictory and depressing, even about the diety himself. As far as aliens/alien influence & civilizations I don't know, haven't a clue really, but still, I suspect there have been civilizations in the past far more advanced than we've been taught to believe. And there is a real possibility that there is 'intelligent' life on other planets, if not, then why do they exist? To believe that this is the only inhabited planet in the universe is the epitomy of arrogance. Yet people in this 21st Century actually feel that we are enlightened ... we are so in the dark as evidenced by the constant conflict on our planet. Just can't seem to get it together.
I think it's tragic that our world is so small in our own minds. That people would put faith in one book to answer all of life's questions and instruct them in life's purpose. The universe is quite ancient and extremely immense. It should be our teacher. We should spend more time asking questions in stillness while listening for the answer. We need to spend more time asking questions in the presence of others to get them to think too - we just don't appreciate how powerful our minds are - we're limited by our own perception.
Thanks for the links Skyman - interesting stuff. And I didn't have to believe it to enjoy reading about it . It's just information ... very interesting information I might add, it may be true, it may not (I don't always listen to the experts (in any field), you never know what motivates or influences people to say the things they do).
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PS - We've been so programmed to believe this is the only inhabited planet - could it be that there's a government conspiracy to hide the fact that other humans have been here? Would it send the world into a panic knowing the truth?
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What a wonderful organization it would be if ....
by sweet tee inthe organization of jw's would do better to encourage real love and fellowship among the brothers.
but suppose, just suppose the borg were to write something like this in a wt study article:.
"in these times of fear and insecurity, it is imperative that we draw closer to one another.
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Dune - I agree. This is the way it is supposed to be. How ironic that they are led to believe that the way they behave now is a reflection of true Christianity when it is not.Serendipity - Those words have been written and spoken. However, most JW's I know just want to self-righteously judge and criticize.&
The types of articles posted here recently are very much to the contrary - just more of the 'be on guard against bad association - both inside the cong. and outside.' This is what I find insidious and poison to the organziation. Those who are in need of love, like so many new ones posting here, are fed up with the cliques and judgementalism. They want REAL friends - not the phony friendship encouraged by the control freakish GB.
And I certainly agree that control and bullying are the core tacticts used to keep the R&F in line - problem is that it's backfireing now like all h*ll.
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What a wonderful organization it would be if ....
by sweet tee inthe organization of jw's would do better to encourage real love and fellowship among the brothers.
but suppose, just suppose the borg were to write something like this in a wt study article:.
"in these times of fear and insecurity, it is imperative that we draw closer to one another.
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The organization of JW's would do better to encourage real love and fellowship among the brothers.
But suppose, just suppose the borg were to write something like this in a WT study article:
"In these times of fear and insecurity, it is imperative that we draw closer to one another. If you see your brother (or sister) standing alone after the meeting greet him with brotherly affection; ask them how the day was and listen intently for the answer and offer encouragement or condolence as the need may be. Never forsake those among you who are in spiritual peril. If their meeting attendance or field service time has decreased, do not attempt to brow beat them back into submission, but lovingly offer to assist them when they are ready, always following through with a phone call or brief, spontaneous visit to let them know that you care and are truly interested in their spiritual and physical well being. Above all else, do not judge your brother or sister as to their spirituality and love for Jehovah God and Jesus, for only God can read the heart. Moreover, we have a wonderful example in our Lord Jesus Christ, who once lived as a man and demonstrated tremendous love and compassion toward the lowly, downtrodden and broken-hearted. He is an excellent model for us to follow in showing love and compassion toward others, especially those related to us in the faith."
I know there are many issues in the borganization but this lack of love is tantamount to death by gangrene, it is poisoning the organiziation to it's very core and the old geezers up in crooklyn - those who obviously have no idea how real love feels (too many years of confusing fear and intimidation with love and respect - no wife, no children = no compassion for families .... ) all they can think to do is continuously tighten their grip.
The organization is dying because the broken hearted cannot take it anymore . The lack of love in the organization provides confirmation for me and many others that 'God is not with these people'.
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RE: blood issue and media.
by avishai inplease send letters to stephen bates requesting an article on this issue.
many of you may not see immediately how important this matter is.
beyond the other legal ramifications, i.e, the wts lying about secular info., intentional deception, etc., the blood issue is a huge one.
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That's what I'm hoping aposta kate ... that those who've left that were damaged by this policy will take the Watchtower to court.Those on the board that are saying the dubs won't sue, this is not only about those that are still in but those of us who've opened our eyes and seen the organization for what it really is and want them to account for the damage their teachings and practices have caused. It's also about the non-believing family members who've lost loved ones as a result of this f'd up blood doctrie (so-called).
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The Grasshopper 'IN' The Shoe Box
by Golf ini came across this story and it had to do with people who yell, scream and bitch about everything in life, and they can't and don't 'do' anything about it.
this fisherman (dave)picked up a newly fisherman (paul)in his community one early morning, and on route to their destination, which was some distance, paul noticed a shoe box on the front seat.
he also heard lots of noises in the shoe box.
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As long as you hold to your anger, resentment, etc you cannot heal, you cannot go forward, you stay in the box of your own making, example: you meet that someone that you harbor bad feelings for, that person has not a clue as to how you feel, he's happy and unconcerned. Solution: Forgive! Not for his sake (because he's totally unawares) but for yours, it is your spirt that needs peace."
I used to feel this way too golf, but like nilfin, I've learned that forgiveness doesn't always bring peace. I have to accept my true feelings and deal with them. Forcing down feelings of legitimate anger and resentment aren't healthy for me.
For example, I tried, tried and tried to forgive my ex for ignoring our children and hurting them in his stupid attempt to hurt me ... it wasn't until I exploded on him and told him how I really feel about his behavior that I could stop b****ing about him to my friends every chance I got. Now when I think about him it's like ... nothing ... no need to rant. I'm done. I don't even feel the anger and hatred (whatever that is) I felt before.
But not everyone deals with things the same way. That's why everyday I try to find solutions that work for me. I can only live MY life and I want to live it to the fullest. That's why I hopped my happy a** out that JW box .
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Where is the love?
by sweet tee injw's are taught that their love is what identifies them as true christians.
but typing on another thread let me to this discovery:.
what i expected from witness friends and what i expect from my friends now are totally different.
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I remember a CO giving a part at a program a few years back where he said that 'the worst JW was better than the best worldly person.'
Yeah ... I heard that one too elightenedchick, they sure believe they are the S**T don't they?!? . It almost hurts to think back on all the stupid things I used to hear and accept ...not everything went down easily but for a chance of life in par-o-dice I chocked down a whole load of BS . What 'loving' person speaks of others that way?
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RE: blood issue and media.
by avishai inplease send letters to stephen bates requesting an article on this issue.
many of you may not see immediately how important this matter is.
beyond the other legal ramifications, i.e, the wts lying about secular info., intentional deception, etc., the blood issue is a huge one.
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I'll bet every dub knows 3 or 4 people who've died or nearly died as a result of not accepting blood. That's a LOT of people! And the faithful STILL adhere to it anyhow. And why? FEAR, fear of eternal death. And what loving elders to stand by and make absolutely sure you don't get anything
Jehovahthe GB says you can't have.I have to add another sister to my list of four - Sister in her late thirties with 6 children died after she was diagnosed with some type of cancer. She was given massive doses of chemo, went into some sort of shock, refused blood and died ... shit, then there was another sister, mid fifties, 5-6 children mostly grown, I forget what was wrong with her but she took ill, stood fast and died in the hospital. Both sisters were irregular/innactive. But you'd better believe the elders never left their bedside! Now - that's 6 people I know personally who died as a result of those control freaks, self-appointed gods in Brooklyn and their cohorts in the congregations.
I hope there is a class action suit and that it rips the Watchtower Corporation a whole new A** H**E.
Yes - Thank you Barbara Anderson. Thank you so much for your efforts to help release people from bondage to that horrible organiziation and its horrendous policies.
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"Special Talk" being given next week about blood
by dorayakii ini just got back from the meeting minutes ago.
we had an announcement at the kh this evening that there will be a special talk next service meeting entitled "obeissons au commandement divin de nous abstenir du sang"... which means "let us obey the divin commandment to abstain from blood"
i asked the presiding overseer why the blood talk was being given so early, and not in line with the kingdom ministry schedule.
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The part that gets me is this (from the KM instructions for the part): "In conclusion, encourage parents to review that entire article in The Watchtower and to follow through immediately by having discussions and practice sessions with their children about the Bible-based command regarding blood, equipping them to express their beliefs with conviction. Family heads should be sure that each baptized child is carrying a DPA card and that each unbaptized child is carrying an Identity Card."
It makes me sick.
I'm with you listener - that s**t is sickening.
I think the point of the 'rehearsal' is to inforce/reinforce cognitive dissonance on the adult R&F - most of the children really don't buy the bs anyway. Just the thought of having to take a stand on the blood issue made my head spin ... Even though I would hope to have the strength to be faithful to
the GBJehovah, my heart/mind/whatever would wander into the courtroom where a judge would take away my parental rights forcing the transfusion (push back that feeling of relief and euphoria-must obey) ... then I'd go back to the imaginary hospital room and run away with my sick child ... then be in the car wondering what the hell I was going to do when my child died (there is no if, death is immenent and one must be faithful to the end) ... then I'd probably be arrested, but being in jail would be nothing compared to not having my baby ... that's all that mattered in the end ... then I'd go back to the beginning if I my mind could withstand the exercise again, or just put it away and hope I'd never have to make any of those decisions. What terror to put into the heart of a parent. Such a loving organzation, what a loving god they worship . Stupid cult. I hope they choke on their blood doctrine and bleed money like they've never imagined.sweet tee